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here we go our Sun shatters welcome to

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the party drink a little drink smoking a

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little smoke the only way I know how

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from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carl Wood

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and today were popping open the sweet

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sweet Pandora's box a conspiracy

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goodness by looking at a lot of the

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secret programs that have been going on

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over the last few decades why they've

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happened what's the connection and what

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do we know about them

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things like geoengineering chemtrails

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the construction of a vast network of

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underground bases and high-tech tube

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trains depopulation the Georgia

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Guidestones agenda21 raven rock UFO

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secret space programs and more and

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that's just in the first hour as you

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folks know each episode has an extended

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second hour and this one's no different

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if you enjoy it and want to hear more

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about these topics and other areas of

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interests like the prospect of space

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Nazis definitely support the show for

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five dollars a month or sixty dollars a

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year by joining THC plus at the higher

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side chats plus calm and I'll support

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you with an extra hour each show but

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it's been a while since we've done an

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episode that focused on the mainstream

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conspiracy world and maybe we've been a

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little bit overdue so let's dive

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straight into the madness no time to

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waste thanks everyone for listening and

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supporting this wild ride around the

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fringe keep your seat backs and tray

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tables in the upright locked position

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because we're taking off with my good

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friend and conspiracy guru Olaf Phillips

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when I find myself in times of trouble

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mr. Carwood comes to me speaking words

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of wisdom THC

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ugh

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speaking words listen

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all right people if you ask me the

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biggest conspiratorial can of worms is

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the topic of secret technologies that

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have been hidden from the masses and you

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don't have to travel very far down that

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road before you encounter stories of

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reverse-engineering UFOs secret

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underground facilities moon bases Mars

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bases covert pacts with the greys

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geoengineering breakaway civilizations

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and the whole grab bag of conspiracy

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goodness and I'm sure will touch on all

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those things as we try to figure out

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just how far some of these hidden

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technologies and covert projects have

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gone where they came from and to what

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ends are these mysterious men working

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towards and I can think of no better

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guest to give us the good word than my

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main man Olaf Phillips founder of the

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anomaly's Network life long space

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technology enthusiast and a great a

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conspiracy researcher hot off the

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presses with a great new book entitled

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the secret Space Age secret space

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programs breakaway civilizations Nazi

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ufos SDI and alternative 3 here he is

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the man who knows the plan Olaf Phillips

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how the hell are you I'm doing all right

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how are you I'm great man never better

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it is always a pleasure getting into

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this stuff with you I really love the

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book it expands on so many awesome areas

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where you find at least a couple new

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pieces of information or connections I

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hadn't heard before so I think this is

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going to be a pretty good time before we

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really get into the book I have been

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really anxious to ask you about your

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trip to the ISA tea ranch we had james

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gilliland on the show a while back

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talking about the strange UFO sightings

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they have up there and I'm actually

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planning a trip to go up in October and

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I figured that'd be my best chance to

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see something weird in the sky you know

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because I'm dying to do that but how'd

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it go for you man

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that is that's a very strange place

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that's a very bizarre place I gotta tell

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you yeah

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yeah it's um you know I'm a I'm a nuts

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and bolts kind of conspiracy nut

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so you know for me you know when I see

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weird stuff streaking across the sky you

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know the first thing I'm doing is I'm

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figuring out is it human mm-hmm I guess

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that's the premise of the book all right

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but I saw things up there that I'm

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pretty convinced were

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exotic aircraft okay um I saw a few

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things up there that I don't know what

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it was I'm fairly certain that I saw an

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aurora oh right on that'd be cool

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yeah and the one thing that really

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boggles my mind that I haven't well

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mind when I was up there that I really

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can't explain is that there's this weird

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light that shows up above the treeline

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on the mountain and Mount Adams is very

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high I think it's like 14,000 feet so

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here you're talking ten ten eleven

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thousand feet up there's a light a very

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bright light and I'm fourteen miles away

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right okay and it was the size of maybe

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a penny and it to me and it would just

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be there and then it would it would like

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close and open and close and open and

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close you know every so often I don't

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know what that was

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yeah and what's this stuff I saw on

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Facebook about a possible Bigfoot

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sighting up there too so I'm I'm sitting

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it it's the afternoon and one thing that

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you have to prepare for when you go up

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there is during the day there's not a

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whole lot to do

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yeah right you pretty much just hang out

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all the fun happens at night at this

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yeah and I'm sitting at a table with

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Larry Overman the the guy from ghost

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mine the haunted miner and I'm sitting

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there with him and I'm checking my email

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on my phone and that's another weird

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thing about that place but I'll get to

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in a minute I'm checking my email on my

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phone and he starts nudging me so look

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at that look at that I'm like Larry

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leave me alone I'm looking at my email

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so no no look at this

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any search elbowing me and finally I

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look up and there's an ax there's an ice

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field that's at about a 45 degree angle

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I'm 14 miles away and it's a good 12,000

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feet in the air right so when you

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looking at it trees are awful small and

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basically I finally found what he was

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looking at basically what it was was two

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black shapes they were lines like people

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mm-hmm and there they're staggered a

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couple inches apart one is higher one is

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lower and they're basically going up the

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side of the mountain whoa

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yeah and at that distance I couldn't see

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a person mm-hmm

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right because you know if you were

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hiking up the mountain you look like a

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like in a little dot

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yeah like nothing from that far away but

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this was maybe a maybe a quarter of an

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inch high I mean it was clear I could

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actually see them

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compressing like they were walking oh

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man that is awesome I gotta get up there

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that just sounds too crazy you're

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getting the whole plethora the whole

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Pandora's box of things you want to see

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in the woods and you're seeing it all

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right there I mean they should be

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charging a hefty fee for that I mean

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that's better than Universal Studios it

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is I mean in it and we watched her for

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45 minutes while these two little little

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lines moved up the side of the mountain

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and they finally got to a crest I think

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there's a depression behind it there's

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like a little like a lip before you you

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start the final ascent or the pink and

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when they got there I can actually see

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them standing I could see them against

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the cliff behind them man yeah

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and in you know we were trying to do

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some napkin math and I have to be honest

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I'm not I'm not the greatest

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mathematician in the world I was a

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social sciences major liberal arts yeah

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they should have a major in some you got

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a major in something and anthro seemed

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to fit the bill at the time but I am you

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know I was trying to do some napkin math

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to figure out how how big they were and

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Larry and I came to the conclusion we

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think they were maybe eight to ten feet

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tall whoa

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yeah and so you know to watch two things

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that are eight to ten feet tall hike up

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the side of a no field that's 45 a 45

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degree angle

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you know that's at 14 miles too

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you know maybe a quarter of an inch I

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that's pretty damn impressive yeah it

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was a size of trees like little

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batteries yeah that is so I honestly I

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couldn't tell you if it was Bigfoot or

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not the only thing I can come up with is

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yeah is it wasn't a person crazy man

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that's interesting that you say you

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think you see more than just that one

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light in the sky did you see other

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things you just would probably consider

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them to be crafts you can identify

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because if people don't know you have a

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huge interest in those type of you know

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high-tech aircrafts or experimental

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aircraft so you know if you say you saw

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something that you couldn't explain I

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mean that to me has more clout than the

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average person I saw some things that I

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couldn't explain the their behavior was

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odd it kind of fell this way that things

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that we saw flying out of the Southwest

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and the southeast toward the north

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northwest they tended to be what I would

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classify as experimental aircraft or

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exotic aircraft is Pro more accurate

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except for the Aurora what I think was

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in Aurora that went east to west now the

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stuff that came in from the West or the

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came in from the north or came in

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straight from the east that stuff

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behaved a little more interesting Lane

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they were making a lot of weird turns

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and and it was this weird behavior it's

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like if a pilot was flying that you know

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you'd have to wonder if they were on

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something as they were weaving and doing

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zigzags and all kinds of strange stuff

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and it you know if I was a pilot you

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know maybe for fun I'd do that stuff but

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at the altitude were talking about you

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know and the speed that we're talking

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about it would be very tough to control

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the aircraft yeah

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but I definitely saw the aurora and that

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was odd and we saw a set of aircraft

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that were roughly it was very hard to

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tell because they were very high and

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even using binoculars it was very

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difficult

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to determine their shape but they they

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looked kind of like stars that would

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fade in and fade out huh yeah and and we

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were able to illuminate on I think six

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separate occasions we were able to

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actually illuminate the aircraft and

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what's weird is that when we illuminated

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the aircraft right yeah when you hit it

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with a light you expect the light to

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come in to kind of like bounce off of it

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to reflect that's not what happened when

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we illuminated it what it did is it

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actually absorbed it oh yeah and when it

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absorbed the light it actually wrapped

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it around the fuselage weird so you

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could kind of tell in that second you

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could see it diffuse around the fuselage

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and after that would happen the light

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would turn off the the kind of light we

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could see which was fading and fading

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out it would actually shut off and it

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would just be blacker than black

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I mean think of the most darkest black

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thing you can and it was blacker than

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that it was actually blacker than the

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sky wow that's interesting and then it

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just took off there's like BAM gone

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Jesus man God I would I would love to

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see some stuff like that I'm now I'm

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even more psyched to go up there well

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what I think what I think was happening

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is that there's a type of aircraft that

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is a kind of triangular wedge shape and

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what it has is it has supposedly has a

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kind of kind of camera or something that

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looks ahead as it's flying and it

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projects the star field below it and if

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you see it fly at lower altitude you'll

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see basically this kind of shape and

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like a moving star field and because

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it's it's projecting the star field

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right it'll shimmer a little bit and I

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think that's what we were seeing I think

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the fading was it actually capturing the

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stars above it and projecting it on the

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on the belly of the aircraft whoa man

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and I think when we illuminated it

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it's set off something inside the

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aircraft the guy said you know the pilot

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man woman or whatever the pilot was like

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oh something can see me that's not good

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and flick the switch and turn it off and

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then it was like I'm just gonna leave

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and just took off wow-whee six separate

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times we did that Wow now a lot of

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people would identify that as a UFO you

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know but in in our case I think both

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Larry Larry and I and some others you

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know we came to the conclusion that they

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were aircraft but they had to be at

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about 70 70 thousand feet plus it's

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still cool I mean and a part of me is so

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sad that I missed the UFO glory days

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because now I hardly ever even look at

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UFO videos because CGI and conventional

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crafts and drones are just so far

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advanced that [\h__\h] could be anything you

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know it just doesn't carry the same

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weight as a weird sighting would in the

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40s or 50s well even in the 80s I mean

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when I was a kid in the eighties I I was

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outside my parents house and actually

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saw what looked astonishingly like a was

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our Sportster hanging in the sky at

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about 25,000 feet huh I mean it had the

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waveguide the whole thing it just hung

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there damn yeah and then when I was in

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when I was in college I went to Davis UC

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Davis and the handyman for our apartment

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complex he was a bit of a UFO nut and he

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lived in Dixon which is the next town

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down down from us you would go through a

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Dixon to get to Davis and he they had a

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mass UFO sighting in the night before

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and they like the entire police force of

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Dix and it's not a huge town but the

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entire police force had got woken up and

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they were all out there chasing a

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cigar-shaped UFO that was running

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parallel to these train tracks and and

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so he said he gave me the article he's

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like you know you should go check it out

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so my girlfriend and I there's my wife

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now my girlfriend and I we got in the

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car yeah no cameras

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no no you know camcorders no nothing

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cuz you know she kept saying well don't

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you want to bring a camera or something

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I said no I'm not gonna see anything

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right yeah so we go down to down the

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road and we perfect a cornfield great

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place to park right mm-hmm

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we parked in a corn it's like a bad

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science fiction movie yeah it's like

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science right we parked in a cornfield

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and we were sitting there for a little

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while and then these lights started to

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move in the sky and we thought they were

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satellites at first but they were it was

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like a dogfight the only way I could

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describe it they were they were doing

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circles around each other making

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triangles and doing high-speed 90-degree

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turns and all kinds of strange stuff and

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then two of them came down and there are

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these two radio masts that are probably

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I don't know 15 miles apart 10-15 miles

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apart and they were flying between the

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radio masts and they would go down to

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one end and roll over come back roll

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over go down roll over come back roll

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over and when they rolled over you could

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see that they were triangular shaped Wow

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yeah so I mean you know this sightings

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are out there you just you have to go to

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somewhere where you're gonna see one and

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it apparently Mount Adams right I mean

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you're not the only one to say that it

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seems like a definite hotbed so I am

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psyched and who knows what these things

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are I mean for the people at home who

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might not be as familiar your position

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is that most of these crafts are human

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which is not really that controversial

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of a stance to take but a lot of people

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think we have this technology today but

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that it did come from reverse engineered

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crafts like the crash at Roswell or a

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secret deal with the greys for

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technology in exchange for permission to

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carry out abductions and I'm curious

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what you think about that I mean are

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these technological advancements just

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the product of human ingenuity that

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seems futuristic because they've been

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hidden from us or could there have been

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an alien component at some point that

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propelled us forward

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well that's that's hard to say I mean

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that's a lot of speculation because it's

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possible it's possible that something

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crashed at Roswell or crashed at Kingman

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or you know a couple of other places

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where stuff has crashed Ruben Uriarte

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did a great book when noe Torres were

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they the Mexican roswall where this you

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know UFO crashed and they carried across

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the border you know so it's possible

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that something crashed and we back

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engineered it I mean then you're gonna

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get into the whole you know Bob Lazar

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thing and I've been a strong supporter

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of was our you know since he came out I

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mean I was very young when when Lazar

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came out but you know since the first

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time I read his story and I talked to

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him the guy I will tell you i sat across

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his desk from him that man is absolutely

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telling you the truth that he he is

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absolutely telling you what he saw or

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what he believes he saw now so it is

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possible the the thing you have to

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remember though is that DARPA where all

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this stuff comes from

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you know conservatively there 50 years

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ahead of us more realistically there are

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a hundred years ahead of us in

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development yeah man and then I know on

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some forums I've seen that you take a

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little bit of flack for playing down the

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alien angle and saying that most of this

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is human technology or that taking that

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position but I mean I think the idea

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that we have moon bases and Mars bases

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and troop transports and massive

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Starfleet ships going out there and

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secret I mean that's just as fascinating

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well you know I think we do ourselves a

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disservice by constantly saying okay

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well everything's just aliens I'm not

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saying it's aliens but it's aliens right

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I mean we you know we have some amazing

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engineers out there and and you know

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sure there's a schism in the community

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you know or if you think it's aliens

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you're on this side and if you don't

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you're on that side you know I've seen

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stuff that I think was probably alien I

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think you know maybe 10 what what

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heineken Valley have always said that it

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was like 10 or 15% I mean that's crazy

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if it's even 1% you know even it's only

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happened one time I mean that's that's

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what I say if it's 1% we got a problem

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right so it's like you know it's getting

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kind of nitpicky in the community of

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ufology arguing because you know you're

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not arguing 0% so we're really talking

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about a real marginal thing but yet some

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people get real real upset it's like a

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religion to them it's like this stuff

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can't be

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and it must be a lien the thing the

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thing that gets me the thing that gets

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me though is that you know I I do firmly

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believe that that solar warden is out

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there yeah yeah if we have moon bases

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and Mars bases and space fleets you know

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my hypothesis for why we have moon bases

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and Mars bases is one thing but it

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doesn't explain necessarily a space

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fleet mm-hmm right if you've got stuff

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that's floating around up there and it

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is like solar warden you know and we we

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started to see the evidence of solar

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warden

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even before McKinnon with the whole

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strip Oh thing that you know whether you

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believe sir power or not one of the

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components of serpo was this idea that

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we had it we had you know extra how

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should I put it well I guess to be

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extraterrestrial right there off the

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planet you have stellar ships offworld

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military

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astronauts exactly and then you know you

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look at been rich who was running the

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the skunk works you know and he's made a

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series of very interesting statements

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like stuff like not only do I have the

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technology to take e.t hell but I got

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the contract he said I think he said

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that at Caltech yeah like what's that up

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what's that about right that's DARPA

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producing solar warden and then you get

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these like every time you do you do a

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show right somebody calls it with

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something interesting one time I was

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doing a show and at the very end of the

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show in the last 10 minutes of the show

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guy calls an old guy calls in from

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Washington State right and he's talking

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about this project that he worked on

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called space worden which was a

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hunter-killer satellite SDI system and

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he worked on this in the early seventies

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you know and it was down down near LA

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somewhere and they had federal agents

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protecting them and you know and it was

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very hush-hush and secret and this is 10

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10 years before Reagan came out with

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Star Wars yeah and he said when I was

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operationalized by the time Reagan ever

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came up with the idea man

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yeah it's it's weird and I love digging

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into this stuff to see how far it goes

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but I mean let's kind of get into your

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book and

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do that I mean we've made mention of

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alternative three before but give us the

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cliff notes again because we're gonna

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use the alternative one-two-three model

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to walk through some of these secret

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programs and see what maybe they could

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be for and how far they've gone so what

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was alternative 3 for those who've

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missed that before so alternative 3 and

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its most basic it was a mockumentary of

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a TV show there was a TV show it was a

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science show and they decided for the

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final episode that they were gonna air

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it on April 1st and it's an April Fool's

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joke they would do something that was

540
00:22:59,759 --> 00:22:56,019
like War of the Worlds basic scared the

541
00:23:03,149 --> 00:22:59,769
crap out of everybody and basically they

542
00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:03,159
made a show that well gets a second so

543
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:05,470
they were supposed to show it on April

544
00:23:11,489 --> 00:23:08,110
1st but they had a strike saying Glenn

545
00:23:12,989 --> 00:23:11,499
they had a strike scheduling conflict

546
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:12,999
scheduling problems and they ended up

547
00:23:18,899 --> 00:23:15,610
showing I think in like June and when

548
00:23:20,639 --> 00:23:18,909
they showed it it just it went crazy and

549
00:23:23,369 --> 00:23:20,649
the phones lit up and everybody was

550
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:23,379
agitated and basically what the premise

551
00:23:26,879 --> 00:23:25,450
of the show was is that they started out

552
00:23:30,749 --> 00:23:26,889
looking at something called the brain

553
00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:30,759
during in the 1970s oh is made in 77 in

554
00:23:36,299 --> 00:23:33,639
the in the 70s a lot of scientists and

555
00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:36,309
technicians were leaving England because

556
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:38,230
they could go to Germany and France and

557
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:41,830
other places and make more money so they

558
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:45,039
were trying to ostensibly look at this

559
00:23:47,730 --> 00:23:46,210
problem and what they actually

560
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:47,740
discovered is that a bunch of these

561
00:23:51,450 --> 00:23:49,450
people were just straight disappearing

562
00:23:53,879 --> 00:23:51,460
right and then they decide well why are

563
00:23:56,340 --> 00:23:53,889
they disappearing and when it came back

564
00:23:59,609 --> 00:23:56,350
as is that there was a top-secret

565
00:24:01,080 --> 00:23:59,619
meeting in the late 50s in the late 50s

566
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:01,090
they determined that there we were gonna

567
00:24:06,749 --> 00:24:03,129
suffer some sort of a catastrophic

568
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:06,759
climate change in the show they talked

569
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:10,450
about you know the things you'd expect

570
00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:13,330
like droughts and and high temperatures

571
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:14,950
but at the end of it they kind of leaned

572
00:24:20,669 --> 00:24:17,110
toward this idea we're going back into

573
00:24:24,749 --> 00:24:20,679
an ice age and and so the planners came

574
00:24:26,670 --> 00:24:24,759
up with this idea that they would they

575
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:26,680
would try to solve the problem

576
00:24:31,710 --> 00:24:29,080
and alternative they came up with three

577
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:31,720
options alternative one was to blow a

578
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:33,490
hole in the upper atmosphere using a

579
00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:37,810
nuclear weapon to vent the greenhouse

580
00:24:42,660 --> 00:24:39,960
gases carbon dioxide in a space

581
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:42,670
alternative - and I failed alternative

582
00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:44,890
two was to built bunkers that people

583
00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:47,350
could live in it's not really

584
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:49,780
economically feasible so alternative

585
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:52,690
three was to actually skip town and by

586
00:24:57,900 --> 00:24:55,450
way of the moon go to Mars and a set up

587
00:24:59,850 --> 00:24:57,910
shop on Mars and to wait for you know

588
00:25:01,320 --> 00:24:59,860
whatever climate damage was done to the

589
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:01,330
earth to fix itself and then to come

590
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:05,110
home so when you look at it as a

591
00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:09,760
structure right you can't deny that the

592
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:11,740
TV show is fake the music was done by

593
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:14,110
Brian Eno he's a great electronic

594
00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:18,370
ambient electronica musician the guy who

595
00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:20,830
wrote it David Ambrose he's a very

596
00:25:26,190 --> 00:25:23,230
famous writer Christopher miles the guy

597
00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:26,200
who directed it and film that became a

598
00:25:32,850 --> 00:25:30,580
very famous director in England you know

599
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:32,860
I mean the people Shane Rimmer who was

600
00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:35,650
the astronaut who's the kind of Buzz

601
00:25:41,010 --> 00:25:38,350
Aldrin kind of astronaut you know he had

602
00:25:42,990 --> 00:25:41,020
been in a TV Scottish show called UFO

603
00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:43,000
and a bunch of others in that time

604
00:25:47,910 --> 00:25:45,220
period he kind of bounced around as the

605
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:47,920
archetype American and in these these

606
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:50,170
kind of British TV shows in late 70s

607
00:25:54,060 --> 00:25:51,970
early eighties so you can't deny the

608
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:54,070
show is fake but if you look at it

609
00:25:58,380 --> 00:25:56,110
structurally it actually very nicely

610
00:26:00,780 --> 00:25:58,390
aligns to a series of things that

611
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:00,790
actually happened exactly because they

612
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:02,890
were just pulling a prank but it seems

613
00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:04,480
like there are some indications that

614
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:06,190
they might have stumbled upon a real

615
00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:08,530
plan or some sense something sensitive

616
00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:11,190
to the higher-ups because didn't even

617
00:26:16,290 --> 00:26:14,350
one of them didn't they have the their

618
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:16,300
alternative three material or films

619
00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:19,000
stolen after the airing at some point so

620
00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:21,280
Christopher miles who filmed it says

621
00:26:26,130 --> 00:26:23,230
that although they faked the whole thing

622
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:26,140
and used a lot of stock photography that

623
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:27,850
he believes at this point that they came

624
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:29,770
frightening ly close to something real

625
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:32,170
yeah and the guy that your time has

626
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:34,210
Leslie Watkins who actually did the book

627
00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:37,260
treatment and he after writing the book

628
00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:40,300
started to be contacted by people

629
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:42,550
and he was convinced that I actually

630
00:26:46,290 --> 00:26:44,710
reproduce a letter in the book but he

631
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:46,300
was convinced that it was actually real

632
00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:49,750
and he had set out to write a second

633
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:52,300
book arguing that alternative three was

634
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,910
real but in the process of moving from

635
00:26:59,130 --> 00:26:56,640
England Australia to New Zealand

636
00:27:03,450 --> 00:26:59,140
somebody went into his cargo container

637
00:27:05,670 --> 00:27:03,460
and stole everything hmm and so after

638
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:05,680
that he basically dropped off the face

639
00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:07,750
of the earth outside of the one letter

640
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:09,580
that I was able to find I can find the

641
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:12,640
way to contact him interesting I'd love

642
00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:16,150
to talk to him yeah so I mean back then

643
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,830
it might not have been as obvious but

644
00:27:21,690 --> 00:27:19,840
today I mean we're gonna talk about it

645
00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:21,700
your books about it but as we go through

646
00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:23,320
the alternatives I mean a lot of these

647
00:27:27,450 --> 00:27:25,630
programs are pretty obvious to anyone

648
00:27:30,450 --> 00:27:27,460
who's in the alternative news community

649
00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:30,460
now I mean alternative one blasting

650
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:32,830
holes in the atmosphere they did they

651
00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:34,450
tried to do that with something called

652
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,270
Project Argus right right

653
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:40,000
it's a project hardtack Argus and

654
00:27:46,610 --> 00:27:44,320
basically that was a nuclear weapons

655
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:46,620
test and ostensibly they were trying to

656
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,260
person they called it the Coriolis

657
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:52,720
effect and this guy had hypothesized

658
00:27:56,550 --> 00:27:54,490
that if he set off a nuclear weapon at

659
00:27:58,590 --> 00:27:56,560
high altitude you could create an

660
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:58,600
artificial Van Allen radiation belt and

661
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:01,120
actually succeeded in doing that but

662
00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:03,850
that program that project actually had a

663
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:05,950
massive fleet associated with it

664
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,310
they organized that in in maybe a third

665
00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:11,440
to a half the time or a third of the

666
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:13,630
time that it normally took so normally

667
00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:15,670
took like anywhere from one to two years

668
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:18,580
to plan a nuclear test they did this in

669
00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:20,890
six months in six months they were

670
00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:24,550
launching the missile and so apparently

671
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:27,070
you know if it's everything it's the

672
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:30,490
highest nuclear test ever carried out

673
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,350
and one of the interesting things about

674
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:34,480
it is that at the time I think it was

675
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:37,270
time or Newsweek one of the the big news

676
00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:40,930
operations said that it was probably the

677
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:43,660
most important scientific test ever

678
00:28:49,170 --> 00:28:46,210
carried out that being said they

679
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:49,180
classified it until like 1982 so they

680
00:28:54,150 --> 00:28:51,190
carried it out like like the late 50s

681
00:28:57,630 --> 00:28:54,160
and they classified it until like 1980

682
00:29:00,480 --> 00:28:57,640
- Wow so they were successful in

683
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:00,490
creating a fake Van Allen radiation belt

684
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:02,890
but as far as one of their other goals

685
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:05,290
which was tearing that hole blasting

686
00:29:10,050 --> 00:29:06,790
that hole in the upper atmosphere to

687
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:10,060
release co2 gases I mean that part was

688
00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:13,330
not successful right correct So You

689
00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:15,460
Think Progress project Argos in the book

690
00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:17,830
you kind of say that you think it might

691
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:20,200
have been a precursor to the chemtrails

692
00:29:25,710 --> 00:29:23,440
of today like that might be their second

693
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:25,720
attempt at kind of doing the same thing

694
00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:29,530
trying to manage the changing climate

695
00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:33,430
right right so in the in the event that

696
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:35,560
the Argos failed they needed a backup

697
00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:39,730
and I argue that that the geoengineering

698
00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:41,680
and chemtrails are that backup

699
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:45,220
I call it alternative 1.5 yeah I mean

700
00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:47,050
that's a pretty controversial thing to

701
00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:48,220
say because people are gonna think

702
00:29:51,270 --> 00:29:49,750
you're an agent of the new world order

703
00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:51,280
coming here on here and saying that

704
00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:53,800
chemtrails are good but I mean there is

705
00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:55,480
well not stand there good I'm just

706
00:30:00,960 --> 00:29:57,910
saying that's what they are yeah they're

707
00:30:03,270 --> 00:30:00,970
not buying control they're not it's it's

708
00:30:05,310 --> 00:30:03,280
a it's a desperate attempt to control

709
00:30:07,230 --> 00:30:05,320
the atmosphere yeah and there there

710
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:07,240
might be some really negative side

711
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:09,370
effects like Alzheimer's or things that

712
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:11,320
you know I mean cancer rates who knows I

713
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:13,690
mean we have so much poisonous stuff in

714
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:15,850
our everyday life that who knows why

715
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,530
people are getting sick and dying but

716
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:19,600
there is some pretty compelling evidence

717
00:30:25,130 --> 00:30:22,240
for this theory that chemtrails are

718
00:30:28,530 --> 00:30:25,140
trying to do this maybe stave off the

719
00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:28,540
rising temperatures that comes out of

720
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:32,140
the aftermath of 9/11 right right so

721
00:30:36,930 --> 00:30:34,090
basically what happened was right after

722
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:36,940
9/11 happened right they grounded in

723
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:40,720
everything mm-hmm and a lot of

724
00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:42,850
atmospheric scientists at that time said

725
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:45,820
oh my god they grounded everything we've

726
00:30:50,270 --> 00:30:48,370
got to run some tests right because this

727
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:50,280
is the only chance we'll ever have to

728
00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:53,950
find you know to get these measurements

729
00:30:58,620 --> 00:30:55,750
because we always have airplanes

730
00:31:00,900 --> 00:30:58,630
yeah very smart right so they go out and

731
00:31:05,250 --> 00:31:00,910
they start floating balloons and what

732
00:31:07,539 --> 00:31:05,260
they found was that that over the six

733
00:31:10,570 --> 00:31:07,549
days that the ambient temperature

734
00:31:14,889 --> 00:31:10,580
the earth increased by 1.8 degrees Wow

735
00:31:16,269 --> 00:31:14,899
and the the overall not only that the

736
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:16,279
temperature increased but the amount of

737
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:18,580
light making it down to the surface

738
00:31:22,869 --> 00:31:21,289
exponentially increased so they came up

739
00:31:25,330 --> 00:31:22,879
with this buzzword for it called global

740
00:31:27,340 --> 00:31:25,340
dimming and so the idea is is that by

741
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:27,350
dumping this stuff in that upper

742
00:31:30,609 --> 00:31:28,730
atmosphere and you have to remember this

743
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:30,619
is a project that started in the 60s

744
00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:34,850
right by dumping stuff in the atmosphere

745
00:31:38,019 --> 00:31:36,470
they changed the reflectivity of the

746
00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:38,029
earth the albedo of the earth and

747
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:40,399
they're they're kind of reflecting the

748
00:31:45,249 --> 00:31:43,039
sunlight off in a space and it's never

749
00:31:47,019 --> 00:31:45,259
reaching the surface of the earth which

750
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:47,029
keeps the temperature artificially low

751
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:49,970
so they can try to control it by using

752
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,970
geoengineering and the more you look at

753
00:31:56,590 --> 00:31:54,320
it you start to see a lot of really

754
00:31:57,999 --> 00:31:56,600
interesting things coming out of it you

755
00:31:59,519 --> 00:31:58,009
know there are a series of patents that

756
00:32:04,690 --> 00:31:59,529
were filed by a number of people

757
00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:04,700
including a Hughes Aircraft in 1990 they

758
00:32:08,919 --> 00:32:06,409
filed a patent for something they called

759
00:32:10,690 --> 00:32:08,929
a welsbach stratospheric walls box

760
00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:10,700
seating for reduction of global warming

761
00:32:18,190 --> 00:32:13,460
and that patent actually goes back to

762
00:32:20,169 --> 00:32:18,200
older patents from 1965 and 1988 so it's

763
00:32:22,810 --> 00:32:20,179
it's obviously a project that's been in

764
00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:22,820
the works for some time yeah that is

765
00:32:28,049 --> 00:32:26,389
crazy that they might have been well

766
00:32:30,609 --> 00:32:28,059
aware of climate change I mean of course

767
00:32:32,019 --> 00:32:30,619
leading scientists and the elite they

768
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:32,029
have information that we don't get

769
00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:34,970
sometimes ever and it only makes sense

770
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,470
that they would be worried about this

771
00:32:41,499 --> 00:32:38,720
stuff decades before the mainstream and

772
00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:41,509
to think that that is kind of their

773
00:32:47,409 --> 00:32:45,830
attempt to lower the temperature is kind

774
00:32:48,970 --> 00:32:47,419
of crazy I don't hear that that much but

775
00:32:51,249 --> 00:32:48,980
I agree with you that chemtrails don't

776
00:32:52,539 --> 00:32:51,259
seem like depopulation necessarily

777
00:32:54,099 --> 00:32:52,549
because they're just not controlled

778
00:32:55,779 --> 00:32:54,109
enough I mean the elite would probably

779
00:32:58,479 --> 00:32:55,789
be poisoning themselves and their own

780
00:33:00,609 --> 00:32:58,489
families right but well they get into

781
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:00,619
the depopulation thing right the

782
00:33:06,340 --> 00:33:03,049
depopulation thing is actually very much

783
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,350
more subversive that if you want to look

784
00:33:11,169 --> 00:33:09,200
at depopulation right you'll look at the

785
00:33:13,299 --> 00:33:11,179
water supply yeah and the water supply

786
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:13,309
there's actually and whether it comes

787
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:16,809
work we extrude it

788
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:19,369
however it's getting in there you're

789
00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:20,850
listening sir by design

790
00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:24,409
there's a large amount of birth control

791
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:27,720
medications in there estrogen and what

792
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:29,340
it's doing is it's lowering the birth

793
00:33:34,190 --> 00:33:31,710
rate so in the West the birth rate is

794
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,200
plummeting but in the third world the

795
00:33:39,139 --> 00:33:36,960
birth rate is increasing so what that

796
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,149
tells you is that while the West our

797
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:41,399
birth rate in Europe and the United

798
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:42,990
States and Canada and he's developed

799
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:46,049
countries that you know we're losing

800
00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:49,049
population and unable to sustain it in

801
00:33:54,379 --> 00:33:51,870
fact at this point every every couple

802
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:54,389
right would have to produce something

803
00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:58,110
like 2.2 children - to actually level

804
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:02,159
out the birth rate so what I think is

805
00:34:07,340 --> 00:34:03,840
happening is you're seeing an overall

806
00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:07,350
depopulation through the the boiling the

807
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:10,500
Frog method in the West but they're

808
00:34:14,569 --> 00:34:12,810
letting the population increase in the

809
00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:14,579
third world in developing countries

810
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:16,889
because eventually they could use those

811
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,760
as worker states yeah and you write

812
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:22,800
about that a little bit - and it makes

813
00:34:27,319 --> 00:34:25,200
total sense I mean another pressure

814
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:27,329
valve on having kids in the West is

815
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:29,490
economics and debt I mean we're under so

816
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:31,649
much stress that a lot of people don't

817
00:34:36,139 --> 00:34:33,419
even want to think about having one two

818
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:36,149
three kids you know I mean our parents

819
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:37,530
grew up with families that are a lot of

820
00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:40,379
times 8 to 12 kids and it's like no

821
00:34:43,819 --> 00:34:41,940
one's doing that anymore who can afford

822
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,829
to do that right

823
00:34:48,139 --> 00:34:45,839
just having even a few kids it's a

824
00:34:51,470 --> 00:34:48,149
massive change in your lifestyle mm-hmm

825
00:34:52,579 --> 00:34:51,480
yeah you would know but um in the book

826
00:34:54,589 --> 00:34:52,589
you have a few lines about the

827
00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:54,599
International Monetary Fund a lot of

828
00:34:57,230 --> 00:34:56,040
people in the conspiracy community

829
00:35:00,010 --> 00:34:57,240
talked about that I mean do you think

830
00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:00,020
one of their roles is monitoring this

831
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:03,960
influx of populations and kind of trying

832
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:05,970
to steer it in this direction using

833
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:08,960
poverty as a weapon I do I do

834
00:35:15,859 --> 00:35:11,460
you know Perkins and other people have

835
00:35:18,109 --> 00:35:15,869
have exposed the IMF as a as an agent of

836
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:18,119
change so to speak and what happens is

837
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:20,490
you take a developing country and

838
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,520
they're drowning in debt and the IMF

839
00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:25,200
comes in and says we'll we'll bail you

840
00:35:29,780 --> 00:35:27,660
out but here's the terms right you know

841
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,790
you've got to sell all your your mineral

842
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:32,400
rights to to fill in a blank mineral

843
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:33,720
company you know

844
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:35,130
you have to buy weapons from these

845
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:37,830
people and you have to see control

846
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:40,730
basically of your government to us and

847
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:44,400
so then they can enforce values whatever

848
00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:46,530
values they like whether it's the

849
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:49,500
population or overpopulation or tag

850
00:35:54,859 --> 00:35:51,660
changes to the tax code or whatever they

851
00:35:56,180 --> 00:35:54,869
want to do the IMF can kind of has a

852
00:35:59,480 --> 00:35:56,190
heavy hand of that because they say look

853
00:36:02,180 --> 00:35:59,490
we'll just cut off the money right yeah

854
00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:02,190
a lot of power to have man those it is

855
00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:04,280
lipid masters right there and literally

856
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:07,080
literally and one thing I didn't want to

857
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:08,430
point out that when we're looking at

858
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:10,650
this whole thing you know you had made a

859
00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:12,900
comment about you know that that the

860
00:36:17,089 --> 00:36:15,150
elites whatever you want to call them

861
00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:17,099
that they would know ahead of time right

862
00:36:21,830 --> 00:36:19,380
yeah there's a guy named Roger Revelle

863
00:36:25,970 --> 00:36:21,840
and he worked for Scripps and I think it

864
00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:25,980
was in like 1955 or 1958 he was actually

865
00:36:32,839 --> 00:36:30,300
doing a study on on phytoplankton and he

866
00:36:35,780 --> 00:36:32,849
determined at that time in the late 50s

867
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:35,790
the the phyto that the plankton and

868
00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:38,760
these organisms in the ocean were only

869
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:40,950
gonna be able to handle 10% of the

870
00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:45,510
carbon dioxide and other damaging gases

871
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:47,790
that were being released even then huh

872
00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:50,640
so if they can only handle 10% of them

873
00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:53,369
in the late 50s where we had today right

874
00:36:58,339 --> 00:36:55,980
yeah exactly no way to know leagues

875
00:37:00,109 --> 00:36:58,349
leagues above that right and he

876
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:00,119
published it I mean it's it's out there

877
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:02,190
right and I mean I've interviewed guys

878
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:05,010
like guy McPherson who has a lot of

879
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:06,570
compelling evidence I mean he seems to

880
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,670
know what he's talking about him I had

881
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Michael Rupert on just weeks before that

882
00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:13,170
and you know now he's coming to suicide

883
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:15,480
he seen the writing on the wall right so

884
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:16,830
there are those people out there still

885
00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:18,510
talking about it it's just barely

886
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:20,220
adopted in the mainstream everyone knows

887
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:22,530
the term global warming but and it's

888
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:24,570
just it's just a buzzword it doesn't

889
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:27,089
seem to mean anything well what's it's

890
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:28,530
changed from global warming to climate

891
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:31,530
change and what what's happened is that

892
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:33,570
they've taken this this field of study

893
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:36,300
that has it's good points and it's bad

894
00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:38,550
points and they've reduced it to a

895
00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:41,460
political argument that I'm on this side

896
00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:44,040
of politics so I have to say the party

897
00:37:46,510 --> 00:37:45,420
line is that global warming doesn't

898
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:46,520
exist

899
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:50,450
and you know whether the there's a good

900
00:37:55,089 --> 00:37:53,359
saying that I heard once whether the

901
00:37:58,260 --> 00:37:55,099
glass is half full or half empty it's

902
00:38:02,290 --> 00:37:58,270
still dirty so whether it's whether it's

903
00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:02,300
produced by us it's a natural cycle or

904
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:04,940
some combination it doesn't matter

905
00:38:09,609 --> 00:38:07,310
mm-hmm it still happening yeah that is

906
00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:09,619
exactly every time someone tries to get

907
00:38:13,150 --> 00:38:11,060
me in that argument I'm like it's just

908
00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:13,160
better to be cleaner who gives a [\h__\h]

909
00:38:18,849 --> 00:38:16,550
about how bad it is exactly how many

910
00:38:21,790 --> 00:38:18,859
years we have left what caused it

911
00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:21,800
let's just be cleaner like it's just

912
00:38:25,210 --> 00:38:23,540
it's just kind of stupid to think that

913
00:38:27,370 --> 00:38:25,220
we should just trash the earth and if

914
00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:27,380
it's not gonna kill us well then it's

915
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:30,020
fine to do yeah you know let's get rid

916
00:38:34,329 --> 00:38:32,690
of the Appa and have no nobody's

917
00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:34,339
stopping us from dumping harmful

918
00:38:38,290 --> 00:38:36,500
chemicals into the ground that make us

919
00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:38,300
have all cancer in all kinds of side

920
00:38:43,329 --> 00:38:41,150
effects I mean it's it's ridiculous just

921
00:38:45,550 --> 00:38:43,339
as human beings right I was a boy scout

922
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,560
and we had this motto that you know you

923
00:38:48,490 --> 00:38:47,119
go and you leave it cleaner than you

924
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:48,500
found it well we're certainly not doing

925
00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:53,300
that right more Boy Scouts well I don't

926
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,070
know about that but well you know we

927
00:38:59,079 --> 00:38:57,200
definitely need to to step back for a

928
00:39:02,170 --> 00:38:59,089
minute and say you know what whatever's

929
00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:02,180
causing this you know we have a hand in

930
00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:04,070
trying to control it you know whether

931
00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:06,260
we've reached a tipping point or not we

932
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:07,670
have a hand in trying to make it better

933
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:10,490
and if it's a cycle the cycles come and

934
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:12,710
go but they do come back right so you

935
00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:14,750
know we have to be ready yeah I agree

936
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:17,270
with you man well said so getting back

937
00:39:21,579 --> 00:39:18,890
to the book a little bit from there

938
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:21,589
there's the alternative to plan which

939
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:24,170
involves underground bases obviously if

940
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,849
we can't stop the climate from changing

941
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:27,440
on the surface the next thing to try

942
00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:29,330
would be massive underground facilities

943
00:39:34,030 --> 00:39:32,030
and just like the ideas in phase one I

944
00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:34,040
mean we have plenty of evidence to be

945
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:35,900
able to say that governments have built

946
00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:37,250
huge underground bases that are

947
00:39:41,859 --> 00:39:39,160
generally hidden from the public right

948
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:41,869
correct you know you can look at Raven

949
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:44,690
Rock you I mean they're everywhere

950
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:46,730
just do a search on continuity of

951
00:39:50,829 --> 00:39:49,190
government you'll find this mountains of

952
00:39:52,750 --> 00:39:50,839
this stuff and and then you know you

953
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:52,760
look at other things like

954
00:39:59,110 --> 00:39:55,670
the Nordic Seed Vault right here's this

955
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,120
vault of non genetically engineered

956
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:01,520
seeds that's sitting up in the Arctic

957
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:04,400
Circle right and I was shocked to find

958
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:06,650
out when I was doing research that it's

959
00:40:11,290 --> 00:40:09,530
not the only one that there are a number

960
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:11,300
of these seed vaults all over the world

961
00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:14,570
right little modern Noah's Ark yeah

962
00:40:18,340 --> 00:40:16,190
basically and it's like if you think

963
00:40:20,620 --> 00:40:18,350
that the surface of the earth is going

964
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:20,630
to become scoured of vegetation you know

965
00:40:24,580 --> 00:40:22,310
sticking seeds in a vault is probably a

966
00:40:27,580 --> 00:40:24,590
good idea yeah and if you don't there's

967
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:27,590
no reason to do that right that's my

968
00:40:33,730 --> 00:40:32,570
attitude but I love the conversations

969
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:33,740
that I've had in the past with people

970
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:36,050
like Richard Sauter and also the stuff

971
00:40:40,270 --> 00:40:37,850
you have in the book about underground

972
00:40:41,530 --> 00:40:40,280
bases it's just super mysterious and

973
00:40:44,770 --> 00:40:41,540
interesting to me that there could be

974
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:44,780
something so crazy going on beneath our

975
00:40:48,670 --> 00:40:46,130
feet I guess it's why I like the Hollow

976
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,680
Earth theory also but you know obviously

977
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:50,720
you can't fit everyone in these

978
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:52,490
underground facilities and obviously the

979
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:54,230
elite find the masses to be pretty

980
00:40:58,660 --> 00:40:56,090
expendable but I do like that you

981
00:41:01,090 --> 00:40:58,670
mentioned this number of 500 million

982
00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:01,100
people in this section because I do hear

983
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:02,990
it a lot in the conspiracy community

984
00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:03,890
that the elite want to get the

985
00:41:08,530 --> 00:41:06,680
population down to half a bill and as

986
00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:08,540
you mentioned it's kind of attached to

987
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:10,760
agenda 21 also that's not a number that

988
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:13,250
those people throw out and the Georgia

989
00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:15,950
Guidestones which some people might not

990
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:17,270
know about I mean can you give us some

991
00:41:19,630 --> 00:41:18,530
of the details on the Georgia

992
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:19,640
Guidestones because they're pretty

993
00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:22,400
awesome and it's a pretty big mystery

994
00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:23,900
from what I understand I mean what do we

995
00:41:29,230 --> 00:41:27,470
know about him it is well there was a

996
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:29,240
guy named Christiansen that showed up

997
00:41:34,690 --> 00:41:32,450
and as this town in Georgia one day and

998
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:34,700
he he went to the bank and gave them a

999
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:37,610
briefcase full of cash and said I need

1000
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:40,400
you to help me build a monument and so

1001
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:42,710
they built the monument out of I think

1002
00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:46,030
it was marble and it's enormous

1003
00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:50,630
and you know it has these like the the

1004
00:41:55,630 --> 00:41:53,500
laws of nature and there's stuff like

1005
00:41:57,070 --> 00:41:55,640
well it's it's all the tenants of the

1006
00:42:00,130 --> 00:41:57,080
New World Order right you reduce the

1007
00:42:02,590 --> 00:42:00,140
population of 500 million I got to do

1008
00:42:04,450 --> 00:42:02,600
this from memory live in was it live in

1009
00:42:07,090 --> 00:42:04,460
harmony with the earth it's something

1010
00:42:10,340 --> 00:42:07,100
about let religion

1011
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:10,350
be controlled by reason and a bunch of

1012
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:11,970
other ones and there they're actually

1013
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:15,000
translated into seven other languages

1014
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:16,380
and then they're all these like

1015
00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:19,650
celestial alignments right really weird

1016
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:21,270
it's kind of like a modern day

1017
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,970
Stonehenge but it is I did write down

1018
00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:25,440
the languages I mean the message is

1019
00:42:31,580 --> 00:42:27,960
written down in Hebrew Egyptian Russian

1020
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:31,590
cuneiform Spanish Greek Swahili Sanskrit

1021
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,060
Hindi Arabic and Chinese and that's it's

1022
00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:38,160
just so weird and then and then there's

1023
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:40,440
a there's a message around the top I

1024
00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:42,510
forget what it says but it's it's

1025
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:46,200
written in Egyptian Babylonian Greek and

1026
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:49,740
Sanskrit yeah and I mean some of the

1027
00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:51,810
things I actually like it's basically

1028
00:42:57,290 --> 00:42:54,900
ten things and I got a right here what

1029
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,300
all nations rule internally resolving

1030
00:43:01,700 --> 00:42:59,760
international disputes in a World Court

1031
00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:01,710
balance personal rights with social

1032
00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:04,380
duties price truth beauty love seeking

1033
00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:06,540
harmony with the infinite be not a

1034
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,280
cancer on the earth leave room for

1035
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:11,040
nature leave room for nature yeah and

1036
00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:12,510
that's weird that they say that twice

1037
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:15,000
and then there's actually a there's a

1038
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:17,370
Keese there's a key that they put as

1039
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:19,740
well and it gives the astronomical

1040
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:21,300
alignments a channel through stone

1041
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:23,970
indicates celestial pole horizontal slot

1042
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:26,730
indicates annual travel of the Sun Sun

1043
00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:28,710
beam through a capstone marks noontime

1044
00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:30,660
throughout the year and then it was

1045
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:33,390
built by RC Christians and sponsors a

1046
00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:35,610
small group of Americans who seek the

1047
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:37,500
age of reason and the near sea

1048
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:39,660
interesting one it says time capsule

1049
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:42,330
place six feet below this spot on and it

1050
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:44,370
was never completed to be opened on and

1051
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:47,070
never completed yeah that is a weird

1052
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:49,560
aspect to it it's a weird place I mean

1053
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:51,510
it's right off the road and it's

1054
00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:54,180
surrounded by roses and it has like lawn

1055
00:43:59,900 --> 00:43:57,660
and you just kind of show up and and

1056
00:44:03,860 --> 00:43:59,910
it's maintained and I guess part of the

1057
00:44:07,850 --> 00:44:03,870
money that was left was was left in

1058
00:44:11,380 --> 00:44:07,860
perpetuity to maintain it but the banker

1059
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,390
who actually knew who RC Christian was

1060
00:44:18,310 --> 00:44:14,240
you know he refuses to tell anybody

1061
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:18,320
yeah it's so strange and there's also a

1062
00:44:21,980 --> 00:44:20,490
Masonic time capsule

1063
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:21,990
at the Denver Airport which of course

1064
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:25,290
people think has probably got a huge

1065
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:28,290
underground base there right I know I

1066
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:29,970
know we've talked about that one before

1067
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:31,530
and we kind of talked about how it's

1068
00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:33,750
probably too blown up and has gotten too

1069
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:35,460
much press for it to really be useful

1070
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:38,040
for anybody but one that you wrote about

1071
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:40,970
that I hadn't heard was this site are

1072
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:43,170
apparently it has like a ten year supply

1073
00:44:48,740 --> 00:44:43,890
of coffee

1074
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:48,750
yeah it's Raven Rock right so yeah Raven

1075
00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:50,520
Rock is like the alternative Pentagon

1076
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:52,980
and it has not only does it have a

1077
00:45:00,160 --> 00:44:57,530
Starbucks but it also has a gift shop

1078
00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:00,170
nice it's huge

1079
00:45:04,670 --> 00:45:02,940
it's really massive and you know what's

1080
00:45:06,620 --> 00:45:04,680
funny is that one of the things that

1081
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:06,630
comes along with these secret

1082
00:45:11,390 --> 00:45:08,610
underground bases is this notion that

1083
00:45:13,820 --> 00:45:11,400
that there's a underground rail network

1084
00:45:16,850 --> 00:45:13,830
that connects them right Matt goes back

1085
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:16,860
way back into the 80s and what's

1086
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,510
interesting is if you look at it in the

1087
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:21,180
70s Rand the RAND Corporation is a

1088
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,610
think-tank they had actually published a

1089
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:26,160
study showing that they could build

1090
00:45:32,810 --> 00:45:28,170
these these high-speed underground

1091
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:32,820
networks in the 70s using a kind of

1092
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:34,710
pressure thing and they could go like

1093
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:36,510
coast to coast in like three hours or

1094
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:40,710
something it was crazy Wow yeah so Elon

1095
00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:44,760
Musk is about 30 years late yeah even

1096
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:46,590
like Jacque fresco and The Venus Project

1097
00:45:50,420 --> 00:45:48,930
he talks about using that technology and

1098
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:50,430
that's probably where I had first heard

1099
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:52,200
about it and then to hear that this

1100
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:54,690
stuff might be older than me is just

1101
00:45:59,150 --> 00:45:57,330
kind of shocking but in terms of these

1102
00:46:02,050 --> 00:45:59,160
underground bases man do you think that

1103
00:46:03,859 --> 00:46:02,060
they're made I mean probably

1104
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:03,869
multi-purpose of course but do you think

1105
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:07,200
they're they're really for the elite in

1106
00:46:13,790 --> 00:46:10,560
case of net global disaster do you think

1107
00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:13,800
they're more for secret underground like

1108
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,200
testing of technologies and experiments

1109
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:18,480
that kind of stuff no I I think that

1110
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:20,250
those bases in particular like site

1111
00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:23,010
aren't some of the others those are cut

1112
00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:24,180
what are called continuity of government

1113
00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:27,300
facilities and those those are designed

1114
00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:30,420
for ostensibly they were designed that

1115
00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:33,000
in the event of a nuclear war right that

1116
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:33,990
they can move every

1117
00:46:38,590 --> 00:46:36,660
to Congress the President and Chiefs and

1118
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,600
everybody the command and control

1119
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:41,040
elements of our government they could

1120
00:46:44,780 --> 00:46:42,810
move it underground and continue to

1121
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:44,790
fight the war from underground right but

1122
00:46:49,580 --> 00:46:47,130
the reality is is that you know that

1123
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:49,590
that's kind of a losing proposition but

1124
00:46:54,350 --> 00:46:51,810
in in mastering that technique and

1125
00:46:57,140 --> 00:46:54,360
mastering that capability the bunkers

1126
00:46:58,970 --> 00:46:57,150
also serve as a place to go in case of

1127
00:47:01,310 --> 00:46:58,980
something like climate change where if

1128
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:01,320
they want to go subsurface there are a

1129
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:03,030
number of these facilities scattered

1130
00:47:08,270 --> 00:47:05,250
around the world where they can go and

1131
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:08,280
hide yeah and I hear about well go ahead

1132
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:10,110
but what I was going to say is what's

1133
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:12,330
more interesting is that you know you

1134
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:14,040
can only save a very very small

1135
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:16,260
percentage of the population I move in

1136
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:17,730
underground I mean the bases are just

1137
00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:18,480
not big enough

1138
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:20,760
you can't build underground cities large

1139
00:47:28,310 --> 00:47:25,610
enough to house everybody in LA right so

1140
00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:28,320
you know with this rise of the idea of

1141
00:47:33,170 --> 00:47:30,300
these FEMA camps and this other stuff I

1142
00:47:35,090 --> 00:47:33,180
think those might be elements that are

1143
00:47:37,490 --> 00:47:35,100
surface based that are designed to

1144
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:37,500
control the population as the others

1145
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:41,040
descend yeah those FEMA camps man

1146
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:42,420
they're creepy anyone who's really

1147
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:44,310
looked at the videos of a more seen the

1148
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:46,290
tens of thousands of plastic coffins

1149
00:47:50,210 --> 00:47:48,900
they store it is weird but I mean maybe

1150
00:47:51,859 --> 00:47:50,220
they don't even know what they're

1151
00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:51,869
planning for they just might see the

1152
00:47:55,460 --> 00:47:53,190
writing on the wall that eventually

1153
00:47:57,980 --> 00:47:55,470
whether its economic or environmental

1154
00:47:59,540 --> 00:47:57,990
there's gonna be a disaster and they

1155
00:48:02,180 --> 00:47:59,550
don't want to have to deal with us when

1156
00:48:03,980 --> 00:48:02,190
we get angry well it's it's simpler than

1157
00:48:05,420 --> 00:48:03,990
that you know they they probably

1158
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:05,430
fundamentally don't know what they're

1159
00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:06,930
for it's somebody in the food chain

1160
00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:09,300
somewhere said you got to go build it

1161
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:11,400
mm-hmm that's how these things work

1162
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:13,770
right that let's say that that you're

1163
00:48:18,590 --> 00:48:17,070
building an exotic aircraft you know

1164
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,600
you're gonna have three groups of people

1165
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:21,119
working on the engine and each one is

1166
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:22,530
working on a different component of the

1167
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:24,510
engine only at the very end when a

1168
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:26,670
technician puts the engine together that

1169
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:28,470
guy is the only guy who actually knows

1170
00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:30,930
what the engine does yeah that's true

1171
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:34,350
that's true and it's just I mean it does

1172
00:48:38,660 --> 00:48:36,570
piss me off though that all government

1173
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:38,670
runs on the people's money and yet they

1174
00:48:43,370 --> 00:48:41,250
put more energy into these contingency

1175
00:48:45,290 --> 00:48:43,380
plans to control us or to keep us down

1176
00:48:47,749 --> 00:48:45,300
in some type of collapse or disaster

1177
00:48:49,579 --> 00:48:47,759
situation or build multi-billion

1178
00:48:52,129 --> 00:48:49,589
dollar facilities for themselves

1179
00:48:54,139 --> 00:48:52,139
underground just in case meanwhile

1180
00:48:55,849 --> 00:48:54,149
people are starving on the surface and

1181
00:48:57,859 --> 00:48:55,859
rather than putting any energy into

1182
00:49:01,309 --> 00:48:57,869
using the people's money to improve life

1183
00:49:05,149 --> 00:49:01,319
today it's just all spent for the

1184
00:49:08,809 --> 00:49:05,159
potential for disaster and the lives of

1185
00:49:10,249 --> 00:49:08,819
a few but they can right I mean he was

1186
00:49:11,689 --> 00:49:10,259
stopping them no one seems to give a

1187
00:49:13,969 --> 00:49:11,699
[\h__\h] we're all just going to work and

1188
00:49:15,529 --> 00:49:13,979
watching Big Bang Theory you know we sit

1189
00:49:17,539 --> 00:49:15,539
around and we complain about it and we

1190
00:49:19,579 --> 00:49:17,549
say look this is terrible this is awful

1191
00:49:22,129 --> 00:49:19,589
yes but we elect these people and put

1192
00:49:24,439 --> 00:49:22,139
them in there that's true I mean I you

1193
00:49:26,479 --> 00:49:24,449
know sometimes I get into trouble when I

1194
00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:26,489
do the politics thing but this is the

1195
00:49:31,609 --> 00:49:29,309
way I see it right whether you're on the

1196
00:49:34,009 --> 00:49:31,619
writer you're on the left it doesn't

1197
00:49:36,349 --> 00:49:34,019
really matter no at the end of the day

1198
00:49:39,289 --> 00:49:36,359
the people that that we are paying and

1199
00:49:39,859 --> 00:49:39,299
sending up there they're in it for

1200
00:49:42,139 --> 00:49:39,869
themselves

1201
00:49:44,419 --> 00:49:42,149
I mean lost is the day that mr. Smith

1202
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:44,429
went to Washington there are there are

1203
00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:46,559
very few mr. Smith's in Washington now

1204
00:49:49,759 --> 00:49:48,359
they're bought and paid for whether

1205
00:49:52,009 --> 00:49:49,769
they're on the right or the left or the

1206
00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:52,019
tea party or not they're all bought and

1207
00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:53,880
paid for by special interest groups I

1208
00:49:59,059 --> 00:49:56,579
mean the idea that they can pass alas a

1209
00:50:02,569 --> 00:49:59,069
ruling that says that a company is a

1210
00:50:04,879 --> 00:50:02,579
person yeah that company has it has all

1211
00:50:07,699 --> 00:50:04,889
the rights of a person that's asinine

1212
00:50:08,989 --> 00:50:07,709
right you know does that mean does that

1213
00:50:11,779 --> 00:50:08,999
mean that fill-in-the-blank

1214
00:50:14,899 --> 00:50:11,789
multinational corporation like Viacom is

1215
00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:14,909
gonna have children apparently um has

1216
00:50:20,269 --> 00:50:17,819
the right to adopt children I don't know

1217
00:50:23,179 --> 00:50:20,279
if Sumner Redstone wants to do that but

1218
00:50:26,479 --> 00:50:23,189
apparently Viacom as an entity has the

1219
00:50:28,219 --> 00:50:26,489
right to get married yeah it's it's so

1220
00:50:30,109 --> 00:50:28,229
stupid the legal framework for that

1221
00:50:31,549 --> 00:50:30,119
stuff there was one guy fighting back in

1222
00:50:34,699 --> 00:50:31,559
an interesting way out here in

1223
00:50:36,289 --> 00:50:34,709
California that was he was trying to

1224
00:50:38,449 --> 00:50:36,299
make the case that he is allowed to

1225
00:50:40,429 --> 00:50:38,459
drive in the carpool lane which anyone

1226
00:50:43,819 --> 00:50:40,439
who has a carpool lane should know

1227
00:50:45,229 --> 00:50:43,829
they're just so great to get into and he

1228
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:45,239
thought he should be able to drive in it

1229
00:50:51,409 --> 00:50:47,249
because he had his corporate paperwork

1230
00:50:53,269 --> 00:50:51,419
and his passenger seat and if the court

1231
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:53,279
if a corporation is a person then this

1232
00:50:57,289 --> 00:50:55,049
is basically the corporation in this

1233
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:57,299
manila envelope and we're riding

1234
00:51:04,210 --> 00:51:01,760
together so [\h__\h] you I heard about that

1235
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:04,220
I think that's that's funny but I mean

1236
00:51:09,250 --> 00:51:07,250
obviously there are way more serious

1237
00:51:12,430 --> 00:51:09,260
ramifications for corporate personhood

1238
00:51:16,270 --> 00:51:12,440
than the carpool lane but it is just

1239
00:51:17,590 --> 00:51:16,280
asinine that that that goes on but I was

1240
00:51:19,210 --> 00:51:17,600
going to mention to you man on the

1241
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:19,220
subject of underground base's when I

1242
00:51:23,410 --> 00:51:21,110
spoke with David Politis a few episodes

1243
00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:23,420
ago I mentioned your article for

1244
00:51:27,730 --> 00:51:25,160
paranoia that talked about batch

1245
00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:27,740
consignments and how these clusters of

1246
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:30,230
disappearances from David Politis --is

1247
00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:32,930
work are actually pretty close to the

1248
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:35,030
apparent places that a lot of

1249
00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:38,000
underground bases are so I did mention

1250
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:39,230
that to him and he said he's heard the

1251
00:51:42,730 --> 00:51:40,880
theory but he thinks that some of the

1252
00:51:45,070 --> 00:51:42,740
areas are too remote or that too many

1253
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,080
people are actually found later dead or

1254
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:46,640
alive so they're not actually you know

1255
00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:49,010
missing missing but I still think it's a

1256
00:51:52,330 --> 00:51:50,660
super interesting theory and it's weird

1257
00:51:54,910 --> 00:51:52,340
that there is that connection they do

1258
00:51:58,090 --> 00:51:54,920
overlay they are pretty damn close they

1259
00:52:00,910 --> 00:51:58,100
are and for my I think David Politis

1260
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:00,920
does an amazing job you know he does

1261
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:02,450
some of the best research I've ever seen

1262
00:52:06,820 --> 00:52:05,330
and you know for my money you know

1263
00:52:09,130 --> 00:52:06,830
whether they find them alive or dead

1264
00:52:11,170 --> 00:52:09,140
later you still don't know what happened

1265
00:52:12,820 --> 00:52:11,180
to them in between good point because

1266
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:12,830
one of the things that he points out is

1267
00:52:17,530 --> 00:52:15,170
that when these people are found days or

1268
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:17,540
weeks later they have no idea where

1269
00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:20,240
they've been yeah maybe they're hitting

1270
00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:21,830
them with that men in black flashbulb

1271
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,260
thing right back out in the woods or

1272
00:52:28,810 --> 00:52:26,240
maybe they flunked the test who knows

1273
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:28,820
but you know there are large numbers of

1274
00:52:33,130 --> 00:52:31,010
people that disappear around these bases

1275
00:52:35,620 --> 00:52:33,140
and whether whether they become batch

1276
00:52:38,650 --> 00:52:35,630
consignments or whether they are tested

1277
00:52:40,420 --> 00:52:38,660
or whatever's going on there are large

1278
00:52:43,930 --> 00:52:40,430
numbers that seem to correspond to these

1279
00:52:47,260 --> 00:52:43,940
bases that exist yeah man and on the I

1280
00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:47,270
wanted to double back to the the half a

1281
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:48,950
billion number the 500 million number

1282
00:52:54,850 --> 00:52:52,000
because it's also part of agenda 21 and

1283
00:52:56,110 --> 00:52:54,860
someone who's kind of new to conspiracy

1284
00:52:58,090 --> 00:52:56,120
might not have heard about it because

1285
00:53:00,340 --> 00:52:58,100
it's I feel like it's kind of died down

1286
00:53:02,620 --> 00:53:00,350
it was a pretty big thing several years

1287
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:02,630
ago but I think the problem is that the

1288
00:53:07,930 --> 00:53:04,490
people talking about it put it here on

1289
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:07,940
it I think they put like 2010 or 2011 as

1290
00:53:12,550 --> 00:53:10,730
the year for it that all these vitamins

1291
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:12,560
were going to get basically taken off

1292
00:53:15,460 --> 00:53:13,970
the market and it was going to become a

1293
00:53:17,530 --> 00:53:15,470
prescription thing only

1294
00:53:19,330 --> 00:53:17,540
for you to get vitamins and nutrients so

1295
00:53:22,170 --> 00:53:19,340
they were gonna choke us out that way

1296
00:53:26,020 --> 00:53:22,180
but what are your thoughts on agenda 21

1297
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:26,030
well you know agenda 21 is is this UN

1298
00:53:31,180 --> 00:53:27,890
program to create sustainable

1299
00:53:33,339 --> 00:53:31,190
populations right so the the UN idea is

1300
00:53:36,010 --> 00:53:33,349
you know you want to put things into

1301
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:36,020
place and control you know the the

1302
00:53:40,420 --> 00:53:37,849
production of food and the distribution

1303
00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:40,430
of food and you know when I look at this

1304
00:53:44,109 --> 00:53:41,150
stuff

1305
00:53:46,990 --> 00:53:44,119
you know in a lot of ways it's actually

1306
00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:47,000
the problem of conspiracy theory right

1307
00:53:52,270 --> 00:53:50,270
the one as conspiracy theorist the best

1308
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:52,280
we can be in nine times out of ten as a

1309
00:53:56,010 --> 00:53:55,040
theorist right right we we see the

1310
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:56,020
outliers

1311
00:54:03,250 --> 00:54:00,800
you know we we see the the symptoms but

1312
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:03,260
we never see the problem mm-hmm right

1313
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:05,510
you know you might have a viral

1314
00:54:10,420 --> 00:54:07,730
infection that manifests by having a

1315
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:10,430
little tiny purple dot on your back

1316
00:54:15,070 --> 00:54:13,040
right yeah we can find the purple dot

1317
00:54:17,290 --> 00:54:15,080
and say well that's a purple dot that

1318
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:17,300
purple dot means that you're sick but we

1319
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:19,310
can never extrapolate it and say well

1320
00:54:23,980 --> 00:54:21,440
that purple dot means that you have this

1321
00:54:25,810 --> 00:54:23,990
particular viral infection and so when

1322
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:25,820
you look at things like agenda21 and

1323
00:54:29,170 --> 00:54:27,890
it's not the first or last time that

1324
00:54:31,329 --> 00:54:29,180
they're going to do something like that

1325
00:54:34,750 --> 00:54:31,339
when you look at agenda21

1326
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:34,760
it's an outlier of a mechanism that

1327
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:37,250
they're using to to to control

1328
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:39,680
populations to control food distribution

1329
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,650
to control power generation I think all

1330
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:45,040
those elements are in there yeah and

1331
00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:47,810
it's just another way that they're

1332
00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:50,630
trying to do it so you know what I think

1333
00:54:54,250 --> 00:54:52,190
happens is you get a lot of people

1334
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:54,260
wrapped around the axle about it you

1335
00:54:58,780 --> 00:54:56,570
know agenda 21 and agenda 21 becomes a

1336
00:55:00,640 --> 00:54:58,790
buzzword but what they're not doing is

1337
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:00,650
they're not going deeper and they're not

1338
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,210
saying why does it gender twenty-one

1339
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:04,880
exists mm-hmm you know I think that the

1340
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:06,410
better conversation is not so much

1341
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:09,290
agenda 21 maybe they'll do it maybe they

1342
00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:11,510
won't maybe it's in 2015 maybe it's in

1343
00:55:18,250 --> 00:55:14,750
2090 I don't know but what I can tell

1344
00:55:22,510 --> 00:55:18,260
you is it as an entity the object of

1345
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:22,520
agenda 21 is one element of a population

1346
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,710
control system there's actually much

1347
00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:26,480
bigger than just agenda 21

1348
00:55:31,390 --> 00:55:28,470
well sudden you're right yeah

1349
00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:31,400
it's a multi-prong multifaceted

1350
00:55:35,569 --> 00:55:33,540
quote-unquote attack if you're in the

1351
00:55:38,059 --> 00:55:35,579
camp that thinks that this is nefarious

1352
00:55:39,859 --> 00:55:38,069
but you know a lot of people also would

1353
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:39,869
just say that of course there's going to

1354
00:55:44,750 --> 00:55:43,170
be monitoring of the planet I mean there

1355
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:44,760
has to be you know somebody's got to be

1356
00:55:47,569 --> 00:55:45,930
out there doing it but they do it in

1357
00:55:49,730 --> 00:55:47,579
such secrecy and they only care about

1358
00:55:52,490 --> 00:55:49,740
themselves so it's just a lot of power

1359
00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:52,500
for for someone to have but it's it's

1360
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:55,859
also only really feasible to monitor in

1361
00:56:01,940 --> 00:55:58,890
the West yeah because we have the we

1362
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:01,950
have the infrastructure to allow laws to

1363
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:04,530
be passed or to controls to be put in

1364
00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:06,810
place you get into places with less

1365
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,140
infrastructure and things like programs

1366
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:12,720
like agenda 21 start to break down yeah

1367
00:56:18,140 --> 00:56:15,210
so you know I I go back to my statement

1368
00:56:20,540 --> 00:56:18,150
that things like agenda 21 or the the

1369
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:20,550
depopulation meme in general you know

1370
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:22,710
they're only feasible in the West right

1371
00:56:26,569 --> 00:56:24,690
they're only feasible in Russia or

1372
00:56:28,670 --> 00:56:26,579
Europe or North America

1373
00:56:31,579 --> 00:56:28,680
you know elements of Central and South

1374
00:56:34,970 --> 00:56:31,589
America certain countries and in Africa

1375
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:34,980
Asia these places where the

1376
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:37,410
infrastructure exists like the the

1377
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:39,839
Chinese for decades have had the you

1378
00:56:44,690 --> 00:56:42,720
know one-child rule right because the

1379
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:44,700
Chinese have the infrastructure to put

1380
00:56:49,210 --> 00:56:46,380
that kind of population control in place

1381
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:49,220
yeah I mean it's an authoritarian

1382
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,960
autocratic kind of place but you know

1383
00:56:59,050 --> 00:56:54,240
they can do it because they have that

1384
00:57:02,359 --> 00:56:59,060
control yeah scary stuff man and to

1385
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:02,369
bring it up to alternative 3 you know in

1386
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:06,030
terms of the these different agendas I

1387
00:57:10,010 --> 00:57:07,530
mean we've walked through the first ones

1388
00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:10,020
and the second one clearly they've tried

1389
00:57:14,569 --> 00:57:12,270
to do these things that were apparently

1390
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:14,579
just part of this mockumentary that was

1391
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:16,290
made by some people who just wanted to

1392
00:57:20,180 --> 00:57:18,420
make some entertainment but yet we're

1393
00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:20,190
seeing these things have happened and

1394
00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:21,750
the big alternative three you know when

1395
00:57:25,339 --> 00:57:23,460
geoengineering doesn't work and your

1396
00:57:27,620 --> 00:57:25,349
underground bases aren't cutting it the

1397
00:57:29,690 --> 00:57:27,630
last option is to go off planet so I

1398
00:57:30,829 --> 00:57:29,700
mean how far would you say we are on

1399
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:30,839
this I mean there's a lot of speculation

1400
00:57:37,309 --> 00:57:33,810
we have moon bases or Mars bases do you

1401
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:37,319
find that to be within reason I do back

1402
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,140
in the year in the late 50s the military

1403
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:42,240
the army in the Air Force

1404
00:57:48,050 --> 00:57:45,050
came up with divergent plants to put

1405
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:48,060
military installations on the moon I

1406
00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:50,130
think the army was horizon and the Air

1407
00:57:54,650 --> 00:57:52,800
Force was loon X but you know they they

1408
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:54,660
both predicted that by the early 60s

1409
00:58:00,560 --> 00:57:57,450
they would be operational so I don't I

1410
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:00,570
don't see any kind of a problem with us

1411
00:58:04,910 --> 00:58:03,450
having bases on the moon and if you look

1412
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:04,920
at the moon and you look at some of the

1413
00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:06,330
photography it's come back from them

1414
00:58:09,770 --> 00:58:08,280
then there's some weird stuff up there

1415
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:09,780
you know I put some of the photos into

1416
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:12,090
the book right but their tracks there's

1417
00:58:18,380 --> 00:58:14,730
garbage I mean we're not a very clean

1418
00:58:20,420 --> 00:58:18,390
group of people so you know don't don't

1419
00:58:21,260 --> 00:58:20,430
look for the base look for the trash

1420
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:21,270
right

1421
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:25,890
and so there's trash there sometimes I

1422
00:58:28,910 --> 00:58:27,300
can't tell what I'm looking at in those

1423
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:28,920
things but there are a few pictures that

1424
00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:32,730
are pretty compelling well there's one

1425
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:37,020
in particular on Mars that I call the

1426
00:58:42,380 --> 00:58:40,290
the facility and it's it's amazing I

1427
00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:42,390
mean if you've seen it nobody can tell

1428
00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:44,940
me that that's that's not artificial I

1429
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:46,800
mean it's it's basically cut into the

1430
00:58:51,860 --> 00:58:49,110
side of a cliff it's perfectly smooth

1431
00:58:53,810 --> 00:58:51,870
and it's angular and it's it sticks out

1432
00:58:55,300 --> 00:58:53,820
like a sore thumb I mean most of the

1433
00:58:58,130 --> 00:58:55,310
time when I show that picture to people

1434
00:59:00,290 --> 00:58:58,140
they kind of look at it twice and go are

1435
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:00,300
you sure that's on Mars and I'm like

1436
00:59:05,300 --> 00:59:02,970
absolutely it's on Mars I mean what I'm

1437
00:59:07,850 --> 00:59:05,310
looking at it right now and it looks it

1438
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:07,860
kind of looks like a very expensive

1439
00:59:12,740 --> 00:59:11,310
house in Malibu that's awesome and I I'd

1440
00:59:14,900 --> 00:59:12,750
love to I'd love to think that's

1441
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:14,910
happening well yes and no because if you

1442
00:59:18,260 --> 00:59:16,890
if you make the leap of faith and say

1443
00:59:20,450 --> 00:59:18,270
well you know what we've got stuff on

1444
00:59:21,860 --> 00:59:20,460
the moon of Mars then you know you have

1445
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:21,870
to go backwards and say well why do we

1446
00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:24,570
have it there right and that opens up a

1447
00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:25,830
can of worms and then you know your

1448
00:59:29,780 --> 00:59:28,140
worldview changes so well how much time

1449
00:59:31,820 --> 00:59:29,790
do I have on this this rock you know

1450
00:59:33,590 --> 00:59:31,830
right before we have to get to the new

1451
00:59:36,260 --> 00:59:33,600
one if we're even allowed in some

1452
00:59:38,420 --> 00:59:36,270
Elysium type situation I don't think I'm

1453
00:59:41,470 --> 00:59:38,430
invited

1454
00:59:44,270 --> 00:59:41,480
you never fail to impress dudes always

1455
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:44,280
fascinating stuff it's been a real

1456
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:45,810
pleasure getting to talk to you again

1457
00:59:49,850 --> 00:59:47,970
I'm glad that you have a new book out I

1458
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:49,860
know it's not easy to to write it a

1459
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:52,110
whole book from beginning to end and you

1460
00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:54,490
have accomplished it and

1461
00:59:58,590 --> 00:59:56,260
you want to remind people on where they

1462
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,600
can pick it up and maybe your website

1463
01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:00,640
and other stuff you got going on sure

1464
01:00:05,550 --> 01:00:02,950
it's a it's called the secret space-age

1465
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:05,560
you can get it on Amazon or you can buy

1466
01:00:13,590 --> 01:00:08,050
it on my website at anomalies dotnet and

1467
01:00:16,550 --> 01:00:13,600
oh ma li es net I also contributed to a

1468
01:00:19,650 --> 01:00:16,560
book put out by by Tim Buckley

1469
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:19,660
conspiracy journal called the Ark of the

1470
01:00:23,490 --> 01:00:21,610
Covenant and other ancient mysterious

1471
01:00:28,290 --> 01:00:23,500
weapons I think that's what it's called

1472
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:28,300
I wrote a section on on weaponry in

1473
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:31,210
ancient India so you know pick that up

1474
01:00:36,030 --> 01:00:32,710
too you can get to that through my

1475
01:00:37,950 --> 01:00:36,040
website and amélie's an om al is done

1476
01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:37,960
that or you can go to a conspiracy

1477
01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:41,560
journal calm very cool well olav man you

1478
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:43,720
are the best maybe someday we'll get a

1479
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:45,970
UFO with a swastika bumper sticker on it

1480
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:47,770
you'll be validated once and for all

1481
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:52,930
I hope we don't fare unfair it would be

1482
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:55,690
a bittersweet moment but until that day

1483
01:01:00,359 --> 01:00:57,730
man take care of yourself all right you

1484
01:01:02,460 --> 01:01:00,369
too well there we have it higher side

1485
01:01:05,130 --> 01:01:02,470
shatters one of my favorite guys to talk

1486
01:01:07,290 --> 01:01:05,140
conspiracy with Olaf Phillips dishing

1487
01:01:09,450 --> 01:01:07,300
out a healthy dose of Education and a

1488
01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:09,460
generous side portion of speculation

1489
01:01:13,530 --> 01:01:11,470
helps the medicine go down that's what

1490
01:01:15,690 --> 01:01:13,540
Mary Poppins was talking about I think

1491
01:01:17,730 --> 01:01:15,700
most of the big conspiratorial themes of

1492
01:01:19,830 --> 01:01:17,740
the last decades fit pretty nicely with

1493
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:19,840
the programs outlined in the alternative

1494
01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:22,330
three mockumentary looking back now it

1495
01:01:26,490 --> 01:01:24,700
is way more obvious that all these plans

1496
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:26,500
have been tested and carried out in some

1497
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:28,240
fashion since then and there might have

1498
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:30,609
been some very curious government agents

1499
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,650
who wondered just how these TV show guys

1500
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:34,720
got so close to the mark it's

1501
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:36,910
interesting stuff and in the Plus show

1502
01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:38,830
we went from the alternative three

1503
01:01:43,170 --> 01:01:41,230
programs to discussing Olaf's longtime

1504
01:01:45,180 --> 01:01:43,180
position that after world war two the

1505
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:45,190
nazis might have made it from argentina

1506
01:01:50,370 --> 01:01:47,920
to antarctica and then quite possibly

1507
01:01:51,859 --> 01:01:50,380
off-planet and maybe this well-kept

1508
01:01:54,359 --> 01:01:51,869
secret is the reason for such

1509
01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:54,369
militarization of space and some of the

1510
01:01:58,349 --> 01:01:56,590
strange crafts we find and the abduction

1511
01:02:00,359 --> 01:01:58,359
phenomenon it's definitely an

1512
01:02:01,650 --> 01:02:00,369
alternative to the mainstream ideas and

1513
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:01,660
i think all of them make some really

1514
01:02:06,270 --> 01:02:03,400
good points in a really strong case

1515
01:02:07,950 --> 01:02:06,280
about the iconography of these crashed

1516
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,960
UFOs what might have happened

1517
01:02:12,329 --> 01:02:10,000
with the moon landing the reason why

1518
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:12,339
NASA is being defunded suspicious

1519
01:02:16,170 --> 01:02:13,930
aspects of the Benny and Barney Hill

1520
01:02:18,060 --> 01:02:16,180
abduction case and a lot of other bits

1521
01:02:20,609 --> 01:02:18,070
and pieces that might support that idea

1522
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:20,619
we also talked about valiant Thor and

1523
01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:22,990
the supposed et from Venus that worked

1524
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:25,390
with the government operation Gladio the

1525
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:27,609
Nazi Bell and the Germans fascination

1526
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:29,530
with all things occult what benefits

1527
01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:31,089
this might have had from them in the

1528
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:33,670
ways of exotic technologies and they're

1529
01:02:37,410 --> 01:02:35,050
well established but little-known

1530
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:37,420
planned to systematically wipe out all

1531
01:02:41,970 --> 01:02:40,089
the Masons it is an interesting second

1532
01:02:43,410 --> 01:02:41,980
half so consider joining me for it by

1533
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:43,420
subscribing at the higher side chats

1534
01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:45,730
plus comm and if you can't or don't want

1535
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:48,040
to thank someone who does because it's

1536
01:02:51,690 --> 01:02:49,930
the plus subscribers that allow me to

1537
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:51,700
continue putting out free shows for

1538
01:02:55,380 --> 01:02:53,710
everyone else please share and review

1539
01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:55,390
the show where you can that helps as

1540
01:02:59,520 --> 01:02:57,310
well I also sell t-shirts that

1541
01:03:01,470 --> 01:02:59,530
ironically put down capitalism as well

1542
01:03:04,050 --> 01:03:01,480
as some that comment on MKULTRA

1543
01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:04,060
militarized police UFO is building the

1544
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:06,760
pyramids all sorts of bold designs for

1545
01:03:11,099 --> 01:03:08,650
these troubled times that conspiracies

1546
01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:11,109
net so check those out if the power of

1547
01:03:15,450 --> 01:03:13,390
Christ compels you and of course it's

1548
01:03:17,490 --> 01:03:15,460
good to be informed of the covert and

1549
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:17,500
sometimes subtle plan to drive a wedge

1550
01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:19,030
between the elite and the rest of the

1551
01:03:23,460 --> 01:03:21,369
world but don't let that be your excuse

1552
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:23,470
for not enjoying the life you came here

1553
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:25,690
to enjoy if you believe the guys who say

1554
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:27,430
you choose the life you have for a

1555
01:03:32,070 --> 01:03:29,650
reason before you manifest here well

1556
01:03:34,140 --> 01:03:32,080
that also includes this time so shake

1557
01:03:36,089 --> 01:03:34,150
off the amnesia and realize you chose

1558
01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:36,099
the tipping point for a reason and let's

1559
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:37,960
stop dumping those buckets of ice water

1560
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:40,089
on our heads and instead provide some

1561
01:03:44,849 --> 01:03:41,710
ice water for the neighbors around us

1562
01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:44,859
who can't see the ALS Association gets a

1563
01:03:48,510 --> 01:03:46,960
four on a four star rating by Charity

1564
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:48,520
Navigator which is probably the most

1565
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:51,010
well respected gauge for which charities

1566
01:03:55,710 --> 01:03:53,890
are worth donating to so ALS gets a 90

1567
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:55,720
percent a four out of four star rating

1568
01:04:01,079 --> 01:03:57,970
but if you scroll down to compensation

1569
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:01,089
the president and CEO makes 340 thousand

1570
01:04:06,030 --> 01:04:03,280
dollars a year well I'm [\h__\h] sorry

1571
01:04:08,370 --> 01:04:06,040
but that is not a four out of four to me

1572
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:08,380
and another very important point when I

1573
01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:10,330
see a charity that's to support the

1574
01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:12,880
research to find a cure for X Y or Z I

1575
01:04:16,620 --> 01:04:14,980
know it's a waste of money because our

1576
01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:16,630
medical and pharmaceutical industry

1577
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:19,030
suppress cures in exchange for expensive

1578
01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:20,770
long term treatments there are no

1579
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:22,840
Cure's when was the last cure you heard

1580
01:04:26,730 --> 01:04:24,490
of I hear it I hear of a ton of

1581
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:26,740
treatments lifelong injections for

1582
01:04:32,820 --> 01:04:29,770
diabetes or HIV or the torturous chemo

1583
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:32,830
plans for cancer victims but no cures so

1584
01:04:36,270 --> 01:04:34,450
you might as well burn your money if

1585
01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:36,280
you're not gonna overthrow the entire

1586
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:39,070
rig system because you'll spend infinite

1587
01:04:43,830 --> 01:04:41,050
amounts of money getting no cures

1588
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:43,840
because the core problem isn't being

1589
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:46,150
addressed and this comes out to a larger

1590
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:47,650
point where lately I've been taking some

1591
01:04:51,210 --> 01:04:49,210
heat for being critical the way

1592
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:51,220
protesters and activists carry out their

1593
01:04:55,830 --> 01:04:53,770
activities and that's just because I see

1594
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:55,840
it as so rare to get people to actually

1595
01:05:01,260 --> 01:04:58,240
care it's so hard for something positive

1596
01:05:03,630 --> 01:05:01,270
to take hold and make real change that I

1597
01:05:06,090 --> 01:05:03,640
want to see people doing it a little bit

1598
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:06,100
smarter or more effectively I don't know

1599
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:07,990
just some unrelated topics off the top

1600
01:05:14,310 --> 01:05:10,810
of my head I suggested that instead of

1601
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:14,320
blocking highways in Missouri to draw

1602
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:17,530
awareness to the Ferguson issue they

1603
01:05:20,910 --> 01:05:19,150
should go to the police station and

1604
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:20,920
block the cars from getting out of the

1605
01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:23,200
lot you know dump all the neighborhood

1606
01:05:27,870 --> 01:05:25,390
trash on the police station lawn

1607
01:05:31,350 --> 01:05:27,880
I don't care but she should be focusing

1608
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:31,360
your outrage at the police and it should

1609
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:34,150
be obvious blocking a highway is not

1610
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:36,640
going to get the locals on your side I'm

1611
01:05:41,460 --> 01:05:39,130
sorry people shouldn't be selfish people

1612
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:41,470
should care more about these issues but

1613
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:43,450
you can't inconvenience them at least

1614
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:45,970
not in America we all want good things I

1615
01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:48,070
just think we're gonna have to dial in

1616
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:49,990
on things a little more vigilantly

1617
01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:52,050
to have them be meaningful and lasting

1618
01:05:56,730 --> 01:05:54,670
but I guess that's it for me do what you

1619
01:05:58,770 --> 01:05:56,740
love doing the way you love to do it

1620
01:06:00,810 --> 01:05:58,780
hang out with people who make your life

1621
01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:00,820
better and more importantly be someone

1622
01:06:05,370 --> 01:06:03,070
who makes the lives around yourself

1623
01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:05,380
better and we can turn this crazy [\h__\h]

1624
01:06:10,380 --> 01:06:07,600
around despite chemtrails and agenda21

1625
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:10,390
and the goddamn IMF so that's it for me

1626
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:12,250
people I'll see you in a few short days

1627
01:06:26,790 --> 01:06:15,370
until then it's your move power brokers

1628
01:06:26,800 --> 01:07:12,359
future we work

1629
01:07:12,369 --> 01:07:21,940
this is the picture we were

1630
01:07:21,950 --> 01:08:35,190
what's up